- The Hypostatic Union (Two Natures)
- Kenosis (Voluntary Self-Limitation)
- The Semantics of "Knowing" in a First-Century Jewish Context.
Showing that Christian deconstruction has little to do with reason or reality.
Weaknesses:
Dismissal of High Christology: The evaluation largely ignores or reinterprets "High Christology" markers. For example, it views
The Problem of Worship: While the text mentions Jesus as a representative, it does not fully address why New Testament figures offer Jesus latreia (worship reserved for God) or why attributes of YHWH from the Old Testament are directly applied to Jesus in the New (e.g.,
Historical Context: While it claims Trinitarianism is a "later" development, scholarship (such as that by Larry Hurtado) suggests "Binitarian" worship of Jesus began almost immediately after the crucifixion, suggesting the "high" view of Jesus is earlier than the author implies.
See Larry Hurtado on early Christians’ worship of Jesus, or Worship and the Divinity of Christ, or Early High Christology and the Legacy of Larry Hurtado
The Reddit post is a sophisticated defense of Subordinationism. It successfully identifies the internal tensions of the New Testament, specifically how Jesus can be both distinct from God and yet speak with the authority of God. However, its conclusion that divinity does "not arise naturally" from the text is a subjective theological judgment that depends on prioritizing oneness over the exalted language the author admits exists.
The Argument: The text claims that "the Word was God" (John 1:1) should be read qualitatively, meaning the Logos was merely "divine in nature" rather than ontologically identical to God.
The Rebuttal: In the Greek phrase kai theos ēn ho logos, the noun theos (God) lacks a definite article. However, according to Colwell's Rule in Greek grammar, a definite predicate nominative that precedes the verb ("was") typically drops the article. Therefore, translating it as "a god" or merely "divine" is grammatically flawed; it identifies the Word as fully God.
Just two verses later, John 1:3 states, "Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made." In Isaiah 44:24, YHWH explicitly states that He created the heavens and earth alone and by Himself. If the Word created all things, the Word must be ontologically part of the one Creator God, not a created agent.
Debunking the "Agency" Model in Hebrews 1:8The Argument: The text compares Jesus being called God in Hebrews 1:8 to Moses being made like God to Pharaoh (Exodus 7:1), arguing it is merely a representative divine title.
The Rebuttal: Hebrews 1 explicitly destroys the agency comparison by commanding the angels to worship the Son (Hebrews 1:6). In the biblical framework, worshiping an agent, no matter how exalted, is absolute idolatry and thoroughly heretical.
The author of Hebrews does not stop at calling the Son "God." In Hebrews 1:10-12, the author quotes Psalm 102 (a prayer specifically addressed to YHWH, the immutable Creator) and applies it directly to Jesus: "You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth..." This goes far beyond representation; it is a direct identification of the Son as the eternal YHWH of the Old Testament!
Debunking the "Hierarchy" in 1 Corinthians 8:6The Argument: The text claims 1 Corinthians 8:6 ("one God, the Father... and one Lord, Jesus Christ") proves a strict hierarchy where only the Father is truly God.
The Rebuttal: Far from demoting Jesus, Paul is doing something radical here. He is taking the foundational Jewish declaration of monotheism, the Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4: "The LORD our God, the LORD is one"), and splitting its two divine titles between the Father and the Son.
In the Greek Old Testament (Septuagint), "God" is Theos and "LORD" is Kyrios. Paul assigns Theos to the Father and Kyrios to the Son, including Jesus directly inside the unique divine identity of the one God. Furthermore, Paul states that all things came through Jesus, placing Him on the Creator side of the Creator/creature divide.
Debunking "Ontological Subordination" in 1 Corinthians 15:27-28The Argument: The text points to the Son submitting to the Father at the end of time as proof of His "ontological subordination."
The Rebuttal: Economic vs. Ontological Trinity: Trinitarian theology has always distinguished between ontology (who God is in His eternal essence) and economy (how God operates in the history of salvation). The Son willingly subordinates Himself in His incarnate role as the Messiah and the New Adam to conquer death and redeem humanity.
Submission in role does not equal inferiority in nature. A human son is subordinate to his human father in authority, but they are both equally 100% human in nature. Jesus' submission is a functional choice within the plan of redemption, not proof of a lesser divine essence.
Debunking the "Subsequent Theological Elaboration" ClaimThe Argument: The text concludes that Christ's full divinity does "not arise naturally from the biblical text" but is a later invention. \
The Rebuttal: Modern New Testament scholarship (such as the work of Richard Bauckham in Jesus and the God of Israel or Larry Hurtado - see links above or his blog) has demonstrated that Early High Christology existed from the very beginning. The earliest Christian documents (Paul's letters, written within 20 years of the resurrection) show communities already singing hymns to Christ as pre-existent (Philippians 2:5-11), praying to Him (Maranatha - 1 Cor 16:22), and offering Him absolute devotion. This was not a "later elaboration" from centuries of Greek philosophy; it was the immediate, natural explosion of Jewish worship toward Jesus as YHWH incarnate.
Conclusion
While the Unitarian and Subordinationist arguments rightly highlight the distinct personhood of the Father and the Son, they ultimately fail to account for the full weight of the New Testament witness. By reducing Jesus to a mere functional agent or representative, this perspective misses the undeniable evidence of Early High Christology, where Jesus is identified as the Creator of the universe, shares the unique divine name (YHWH), and receives absolute worship from the earliest Jewish believers.
The Biblical narrative does not present a retrofitted, later theology of a promoted man, but rather the immediate and awe-inspiring revelation of the eternal God stepping into human history. Recognizing the ontological equality of the Son alongside His willing, economic submission is not a later philosophical invention; it is the only coherent framework that does justice to the entirety of Scripture. The internal tensions of the New Testament are not contradictions to be solved by demoting the Son, but a profound mystery inviting us to worship the Triune God.
here is a detailed debunking and counter-analysis of its arguments from a mainstream Christian theological and biblical scholarship perspective.
The Argument on Original SinArticle Claim: The article argues that the virgin birth could not protect Jesus from Original Sin because scripture implies sin is transmitted through all humans (including mothers), and Jesus suffered physical pain (a consequence of sin). It also claims that if lack of a father prevents sin, then Melchizedek (who has "no father or mother" in Hebrews) should also be sinless.
Counter-Analysis:
Federal Headship of Adam: Mainstream Protestant theology (especially Reformed) relies on Romans 5:12-19, which establishes Adam as the "federal head" or representative of the human race. Sin and guilt are imputed to humanity through Adam (the father), not Eve. By being born of a virgin, Jesus breaks the paternal line of Adam, avoiding the inherited legal guilt of Original Sin while fully retaining his humanity through Mary.
Sanctification by the Spirit: The article ignores the specific mechanism described in Luke 1:35: "The Holy Spirit will come on you... So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God." Christians believe Jesus' sinlessness is not just a biological trick of missing a father, but a specific, miraculous act of sanctification by the Holy Spirit at conception that preserved his human nature from corruption.
Consequences vs. Guilt: The article conflates sinfulness with suffering. Christian theology distinguishes between the guilt/pollution of sin (which Jesus did not have) and the innocent infirmities of human nature (hunger, pain, death) which he voluntarily assumed to identify with humanity and pay the penalty for sin.
Melchizedek Typology: The reference to Melchizedek having "no father or mother" (Hebrews 7:3) is widely understood by scholars as typological, not literal. It means his genealogy was not recorded in Scripture, making him a fitting "type" or foreshadowing of Christ’s eternal priesthood, not that he physically popped into existence without parents.
Article Claim: The article argues that "Son of God" is a metaphorical title used for many (David, Solomon, Adam) and that a miraculous birth (like Adam’s creation from dust) doesn't equal divinity. It suggests the virgin birth is just a biological rarity (parthenogenesis), not a proof of Godhood.
Counter-Analysis:
Incarnation, Not Creation: The article attacks a strawman. Christians do not believe the virgin birth made Jesus the Son of God. They believe he was eternally the Son of God (Pre-existence, John 1:1) who became flesh. The virgin birth was the method of the Incarnation, not the origin of his deity.
Unique Sonship (Monogenes): While others are called "sons" by creation or adoption, the New Testament uses the Greek term monogenes (John 3:16) for Jesus, meaning "one and only" or "unique" Son. This denotes sharing the same nature or essence as the Father, which is distinct from the metaphorical sonship of Solomon or Adam.
Adam vs. Jesus: The comparison to Adam fails on ontology. Adam was created from dust (external material); Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit (divine power). Adam was a creature; Jesus is presented as the Creator entering his creation (Colossians 1:16).
Biological Impossibility: The appeal to "parthenogenesis" (natural virgin birth) as a debunking tool is scientifically flawed in this context. Natural mammalian parthenogenesis produces females (XX chromosomes) because the mother has no Y chromosome to give. Jesus was male. Therefore, a natural explanation is impossible; it requires a creative miracle (the addition of male genetic material/Y chromosome).
Article Claim: The article asserts that Isaiah 7:14 uses the word almah (young woman), not betulah (virgin), and that the prophecy was solely a sign for King Ahaz about the destruction of his enemies, having no relation to a future Messiah.
Counter-Analysis:
The Septuagint Evidence: While almah means "young woman of marriageable age," it implies virginity in that cultural context (an unmarried non-virgin would be a disgrace, not a sign). Crucially, when Jewish scholars translated the Old Testament into Greek (the Septuagint/LXX) centuries before Jesus, they chose the specific Greek word parthenos (virgin) to translate almah in Isaiah 7:14. This proves that pre-Christian Jewish interpreters understood the text to refer to a miraculous virgin birth.
The Nature of a "Sign": Isaiah 7:14 calls the birth a "sign" (oth) from the Lord, described as deep as Sheol or high as heaven. A young woman conceiving naturally (after sexual intercourse) is a common occurrence, not a miraculous "sign." A virgin conceiving is a sign of the magnitude the text demands.
Dual Fulfillment: Biblical prophecy often operates on a "near/far" horizon. While there may have been a partial fulfillment in Ahaz's time (a child born as a time-marker), the language "God with us" (Immanuel) and the subsequent description of the child in Isaiah 9:6 ("Mighty God, Everlasting Father") points far beyond any ordinary child of Ahaz's day to a divine Messiah.
The article effectively presents the Islamic/Ahmadiyya view of Jesus: a respected prophet, miraculously born, but purely human. To do so, it deconstructs a specific version of Christian theology. However, from a Christian perspective, the "debunking" fails because it:
Misunderstands Original Sin as purely biological rather than federal/legal.
Confuses the method of birth with the source of Christ's pre-existent deity.
Overlooks the historical Jewish understanding of Isaiah 7:14 evidenced in the Septuagint.
In 2021, the Review of Religions posted the article, How Islam can Help Christianity Understand the True Significance of the Virgin Birth. Here is a detailed analysis and rebuttal from a mainstream Christian perspective regarding the points raised.
The Argument on Miraculous Signs & ProphethoodArticle Claim: The article posits that the virgin birth was merely a general miraculous sign to demonstrate Jesus' truthfulness as a prophet, similar to miracles attributed to other prophets like Muhammad or the births of Isaac and Samuel.
Rebuttal:
Unique Nature of the Sign: Christian theology asserts that the virgin birth is categorically different from the births of Isaac, Samuel, or John the Baptist. In those cases, the miracle was the restoration of natural reproductive abilities to barren couples (Abraham/Sarah, Zechariah/Elizabeth). The virgin birth was a creative act without a human father, signaling not just a prophet, but the Incarnation of the pre-existent Son of God.
Category Error: Comparing the virgin birth to general miracles (like earthquakes or extinguishing fires mentioned in the text regarding Muhammad) reduces a fundamental ontological event (the Word becoming flesh) to a mere external attestation of authority. For Christians, the virgin birth is the mechanism of the Incarnation, not just a badge of office.
Article Claim: The text suggests that Christians wrongly use the virgin birth to prove Jesus' "divine sonship" or his purity from original sin. It implies that if lack of a father prevents sin, then Adam or Melchizedek should be considered even more divine.
Rebuttal:
Federal Headship: Mainstream Protestant theology relies on the concept of "Federal Headship" (Romans 5:12-19), where Adam represents humanity. Sin is imputed through the paternal line of Adam. By having no human father, Jesus is disconnected from the federal guilt of Adam while remaining fully human through Mary.
Divine Sanctification: The text ignores the specific biblical explanation in Luke 1:35: "The Holy Spirit will come on you... So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God." This indicates a specific sanctifying work of the Spirit that preserved Jesus' holiness, distinct from the creation of Adam from dust.
Article Claim: The article argues that the virgin birth fulfills prophecies only in a general sense or perhaps unknown prophecies, citing sources that claim Jews never expected a Messiah born of a virgin and that Isaiah 7:14 refers to a "young woman," not a virgin.
Rebuttal:
The Septuagint Evidence: The article cites the absence of Jewish expectation, but overlooks the Septuagint (LXX). Jewish translators, centuries before Jesus, translated the Hebrew almah in Isaiah 7:14 into the specific Greek word parthenos (virgin). This demonstrates that pre-Christian Jewish scholars did indeed see a "virgin" meaning in the text, contrary to the claim that it was a later Christian invention.
The Sign Magnitude: Isaiah 7:14 describes the birth as a sign as deep as Sheol or high as heaven. A young woman conceiving naturally is a common event, not a miraculous sign. The Christian view holds that only a true virgin birth fits the dramatic scope of the prophecy.
Article Claim: The article's executive summary claims the virgin birth indicated the "transfer of prophethood from the Israelites to the Ishmaelites" (referring to Prophet Muhammad) and the end of Jewish kingship.
Rebuttal:
Supersessionist Imposition: This is an external theological imposition found nowhere in the biblical text. The New Testament explicitly describes Jesus as the fulfillment of the Jewish law and prophets, not their termination.
The Eternal Throne: In the very announcement of the virgin birth, the angel Gabriel promises that God will give Jesus "the throne of his father David, and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever" (Luke 1:32-33). This directly contradicts the article's claim that the birth signaled the end of the Jewish lineage or kingship; rather, it established its eternal continuity through Christ.
The article attempts to reframe the virgin birth within a strict Unitarian monotheism that accommodates Jesus as a prophet while denying his divinity. It does so by:
Reducing the Incarnation to a "sign" of prophethood.
Using historical-critical arguments against Isaiah 7:14 that ignore the Septuagint.
Imposing an Islamic "supercession" narrative (transfer to Ishmael) that directly contradicts the biblical text's promise of an eternal Davidic kingdom.
In 2021, the Review of Religions posted the article "Jesus, the ‘Son of God’ – The Historical Context" to criticize the Christian understanding of Jesus from an Islamist perspective. I present a detailed rebuttal from a mainstream Christian theological and historical perspective.
The "Literal vs. Metaphorical" False DichotomyArticle Claim: The article argues that since a "literal" son implies biological reproduction (God having a body and mating), the term "Son of God" must be purely metaphorical. It suggests that attributing literal sonship to Jesus turns him into a "half-man-half-God chimera".
Rebuttal:
The Strawman of Biological Sonship: Mainstream Christian theology has never claimed God "mated" with Mary. This is a strawman argument. The Christian doctrine of Eternal Generation holds that the Son is eternally begotten of the Father before all worlds, outside of time and biology. The Virgin Birth was the method of his Incarnation, not the origin of his Sonship.
Metaphysical, Not Metaphorical: Christians reject the article's binary choice (either "biological offspring" or "mere metaphor"). There is a third category: Ontological Sonship. This means Jesus shares the same essence or nature (Greek: homoousios) as the Father, just as a human son shares the same human nature as his father. It is a claim of identity, not just a title of affection.
Article Claim: The article asserts that in Jewish idiom, "son of x" simply means "characterized by x" (e.g., "son of strength" = strong soldier). Therefore, "Son of God" merely means a person characterized by godliness or piety, similar to how angels or the nation of Israel were called sons.
Rebuttal:
The "Unique" Distinction: While the Hebrew idiom exists, the New Testament writers went out of their way to distinguish Jesus’ sonship from this generic usage. They used the specific Greek term monogenes (John 3:16, John 1:14), which means "one and only" or "unique" Son. If Jesus were just another "son" like the prophets or angels, this qualifier would be unnecessary and misleading.
The Parable of the Tenants: In Mark 12:1-12, Jesus tells a parable distinguishing the owner's "servants" (the prophets sent previously) from the "beloved son" (himself). In the story, the son is not just a better servant; he is the heir, distinct in category from all who came before. This shows Jesus saw his Sonship as superior to the prophets, not synonymous with them.
Article Claim: The article suggests that Jesus used the term only in the orthodox Jewish sense (meaning "Messiah" or "Prophet") and that any claim to divinity is a later misunderstanding.
Rebuttal:
The Jewish Reaction: If Jesus only meant "I am a godly man" (which is what the article claims "Son of God" meant to Jews), the Jewish authorities would not have charged him with blasphemy. In John 5:18, his opponents wanted to kill him because he "was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." The High Priest’s reaction at his trial (tearing his robes, Mark 14:61-64) confirms that the title "Son of the Blessed," on Jesus' lips, was understood as a claim to divine prerogative, not just messianic office.
"My Father" vs. "Your Father": Jesus consistently distinguished his relationship with God from that of his disciples. He says "My Father" and "Your Father" (John 20:17), but never "Our Father" (encompassing himself and them together) except when teaching them how to pray. This indicates his Sonship was natural and unique, whereas theirs was adoptive.
Article Claim: The article argues that capitalizing "Son of God" is a biased translator choice since original Greek manuscripts lacked capitalization.
Rebuttal:
Context Dictates Meaning: While true that ancient Greek used all caps (uncial script), translation is about meaning, not just orthography. Translators capitalize "Son" for Jesus because the context attributes divine qualities to him that are never attributed to others. For example, Hebrews 1:1-3 contrasts the "prophets" (lowercase) with the "Son" (capitalized) through whom God created the universe. The capitalization reflects the theological hierarchy explicitly present in the text, not an arbitrary bias.
Article Claim: The article cites Matthew 5:9 ("Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God") to prove that sonship is a status earned by anyone through good works.
Rebuttal:
Adoption vs. Nature: Christian theology agrees that believers become "children of God" (John 1:12), but this is by adoption. Jesus contrasts this with his own status. In Matthew 11:27, he makes an exclusive claim: "No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him." This claims a mutual, exclusive knowledge between Father and Son that no "peacemaker" or prophet possesses, implying a shared divine consciousness.
The article effectively argues that the term "son of God" can be used metaphorically in Hebrew. However, it fails to debunk the Christian position because it ignores the specific, unique ways Jesus used the term for himself—ways that led to his execution. The Christian argument is not based on the word "son" in isolation, but on Jesus' claims to have authority to forgive sins, to be the Lord of the Sabbath, and to share an exclusive, pre-existent relationship with the Father.
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