Saturday, March 21, 2026

When Christianity Rises, Societies Collapse - EVERYTIME

The video "When Christianity Rises, Societies Collapse - EVERYTIME" by
Darante' LaMar presents a historical and polemical argument regarding the relationship between institutional Christianity and societal stability.
Summary of the Video’s Claims

The central thesis is that when Christianity merges with state power, it creates a "theocratic monopoly" that inevitably leads to intellectual regression and societal collapse. The video highlights the
Edict of Thessalonica under Emperor Theodosius I as the moment Christianity transitioned from a tolerated faith to a state regime. This act criminalized dissent and ended Roman pluralism.

The creator argues that Christianity replaced rational inquiry with dogma. He cites the murder of the philosopher Hypatia and the destruction of libraries as evidence that "thinking itself became a threat."

The "Dark Ages" Narrative: The video asserts that this intellectual "sabotage" was the primary driver of the Western Roman Empire's collapse in 476 CE, plunging Europe into a millennium of darkness, i.e. the Dark Ages

The video concludes by warning that contemporary movements (citing "Project 2025" and "MAGA") represent a repeat of this pattern, threatening modern pluralism, science, and human rights.
Evaluation

The video is an effective piece of deconstructionist polemic. It correctly identifies the Edict of Thessalonica as a massive shift in Western history and accurately describes the intolerance that often followed state-sanctioned orthodoxy.

However, from a historical standpoint, the video relies heavily on the Conflict Thesisthe 18th and 19th-century idea that religion and science are in perpetual warfare. This perspective is considered outdated by most modern historians, who view the "Dark Ages" as a misnomer and the relationship between the Church and knowledge as far more symbiotic.


Refutation of the "Collapse" Thesis

While the video's concerns about theocracy are historically grounded, the claim that Christianity caused the collapse of Rome and a subsequent "Dark Age" is contested by several key historical facts:

The Byzantine Exception: If Christianity were a "virus" that collapses societies, the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire should have fallen immediately. Instead, it remained a devoutly Christian, highly sophisticated, and stable state for over 1,000 years after the West fell.

The Preservation of Knowledge
: Far from destroying all classical learning, it was primarily Christian monasteries that preserved, copied, and translated the Greek and Roman texts we have today. Early medieval scholars like Boethius and Bede were the links that kept classical logic and science alive.

Primary Causes of Rome's Fall: Most modern historians (e.g., Peter Heather or Will Durant) argue that Rome fell due to economic decay, military overstretch, plagues, and barbarian invasions. As Durant noted, "Rome was not destroyed by Christianity... it was an empty shell when Christianity rose to influence."

The Myth of the "Dark Ages": The term "Dark Ages" is largely rejected by historians today. The period saw significant advancements in agriculture (the heavy plow), architecture (Gothic), and the
birth of the university system in the 11th and 12th centuries, all under the auspices of the Church.

The Carolingian Renaissance and the rise of medieval universities represent two major "awakenings" in Western history that directly contradict the idea of a stagnant "Dark Age." These movements show how the Church and state worked together to preserve classical knowledge and eventually create the modern academic system.

While the Western Roman Empire had fragmented, Charlemagne (the first Holy Roman Emperor) sought to revive its cultural and intellectual glory. Charlemagne realized his empire lacked the literate officials needed for administration and a clergy educated enough to correctly interpret the Bible. He invited the English scholar Alcuin of York to his court to organize a standardized educational program.
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Monasteries became massive production centers for books. Most of the classical Roman literature we have today (works by Cicero, Horace, Virgil) survived only because Carolingian monks diligently copied them. [Source]  To make reading easier and more uniform, scholars developed a new script - 
the Carolingian minuscule. Before this, writing was often a mess of regional "shorthand." This script introduced lowercase letters and spaces between words—the direct ancestor of the font you are reading right now.

The Rise of Medieval Universities (11th–13th Centuries)

The educational seeds planted by Charlemagne eventually grew into the first universities, which were a uniquely medieval invention.

From Cathedrals to Colleges: As cities grew, the old "cathedral schools" (run by bishops) expanded into Studia Generalia—places where students from across Europe could study. [Source].  The Church was the primary patron and regulator of these institutions. Pope Gregory VII issued a decree in 1079 mandating the creation of cathedral schools to train clergy, which directly evolved into the first universities like Bologna (1088) and Paris (c. 1150). [Source]

The Curriculum: Students followed the Seven Liberal Arts, divided into the Trivium: Grammar, Logic, and Rhetoric (the "tools" of thought) and the Quadrivium: Arithmetic, Geometry, Music, and Astronomy (the "subjects" of thought). Source

Scholasticism was a dominant medieval European philosophical and theological movement (c. 1100–1700) that used rigorous Aristotelian logic to reconcile Christian faith with classical reason. This was the intellectual engine of the university. Thinkers like Thomas Aquinas argued that reason and faith were compatible. They used the logic of the newly rediscovered Aristotle to explain Christian doctrine, laying the groundwork for the modern scientific method. Source

FeatureCarolingian RenaissanceMedieval Universities
Primary DriverImperial decree & Clerical reformUrban growth & Intellectual guilds
Main AchievementPreservation of Latin/Classical textsCreation of a self-governing academic class
Long-term ImpactStandardized European writing/literacyFoundation of Western science and law


Why this matters: These eras prove that the medieval Church was not a "destroyer" of knowledge. Instead, it acted as a repository and laboratory. Without the Carolingian monks copying Roman texts or the medieval popes granting charters to universities, the Renaissance and the Scientific Revolution would have lacked their foundation. Darante' LaMar 's argument is refuted by history. 

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